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Hob Uid: 441056
Location :
Devon
South Hams
South Huish
Grid Ref : SX6740041700
Summary : A length of worked tree trunk, taken to be the remains of a dugout canoe, were found embedded in the undisturbed subsoil of a submarine forest at Thurlestone Sands, uncovered in 1923 (the forest had previously been noted in 1866: see 1507945). The logboat was thought to be later Prehistoric, by its association with the forest and with the other artefacts found at the site, including part of a Mesolithic tranchet axe and perforated pebble macehead and a few other, more doubtful, stone artefacts. The logboat is no longer extant.
More information : (SX 674417) Submarine Forest (NR) (Site of) (NAT). (1)

A submarine forest at Thurlestone Sands, first noted by Pengelly in 1866 (2), was uncovered by heavy gales in February and March 1923, which removed the covering of sand to expose the heavy clay beds of the forest overlying the slate on which Thurlestone Rock stands. The extent of the site was reported in 1923 to correspond to that described in 1866.

The exposure commenced at Greasy Pool, 90 yards north of the ford shown on OS 6" 1907 (SX 67684135), extending under the sea in a north-westerly direction. When first uncovered there were about a dozen tree-trunks, but some were later washed or carried away. At the low water mark there were also the remains of two eroded vertical tree stumps. Also near the low water mark, embedded in the undisturbed subsoil of the forest bed, there were three timbers, apparently of oak, namely a largely buried trunk, a fragment of a large tree 21" across, and half of a trunk. This was taken home by the writer, and when the debris was washed away, it was found to be a length of worked tree-trunk taken to be the remains of a dugout canoe, flat on the top, shaped underneath, and with several parallel grooves which appeared to have been made with tools.

The site was then investigated with a view to locating any implements, and a flint corel part of a stone adze with a 2-inch tranchet cutting edge; a possible anvil stone; and eoliths, some suitable for use as hammers, others flint flakes were found nearby. Finds were donated to Plymouth Museum. (3)

Mesolithic tranchet axe and pebble mace-head with perforation, listed from submerged forest at Thurlestone Sands. Said to be associated with "dugout" boat. (4)

SX 674417. Submarine forest & dugout canoe, as described above (10.3.82 & 3.8.83). (5)

"Wood and flints" from "submarine forest Thurlstone", donated by J or T (?) Winder, register entry 25th July 1923, recorded as accession 113.23 (1923.113), subsequently untraced. The wood may have subsequently deteriorated and been lost without the aid of conservation techniques which came in later. (6)

There was a hurricane force gale in January 1866 in the Torbay area, which accounted for over 40 shipwrecks (see individual records for 10-JAN-1866); this is presumably the occasion on which the site was uncovered. The wind appears to have begun blowing from a southerly direction, then backed violently to the NE. No wrecks are recorded on the South Devon coast for February/March 1923. (7)

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Source details : OS 6", 1907
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Source details : "A Submarine Forest in Bigbury Bay at Thurlestone Sands, South Devon": Thomas Winder
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Source details : Devon Sites and Monuments Record: South Hams Project 18.10.85
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Source details : Ex. inf. Keeper of Human History, Plymouth City Museum and Art Gallery, by e-mail correspondence 14-JUL-2009
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Monument Types:
Monument Period Name : Mesolithic
Display Date : Mesolithic
Monument End Date : -4000
Monument Start Date : -10000
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Evidence : Find
Monument Period Name : Later Prehistoric
Display Date : Later Prehistoric
Monument End Date : 43
Monument Start Date : -4000
Monument Type : Logboat
Evidence : Find
Monument Period Name : Prehistoric
Display Date : Prehistoric
Monument End Date : 43
Monument Start Date : -500000
Monument Type : Logboat
Evidence : Find, Botanical Feature, Conjectural Evidence

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External Cross Reference Source : SMR Number (Devonshire)
External Cross Reference Number : SX64SE13
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External Cross Reference Source : National Monuments Record Number
External Cross Reference Number : SX 64 SE 1
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Relationship type : General association

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