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B17F 42-30030

Hob Uid: 1387653
Location :
Northumberland
Northumberland
Grid Ref : NU0576046660
Summary : The wreck of a Second World War American Boeing B17 Flying Fortress bomber which ditched 0.5 mile south of the Inner Farne, following mechanical failure, on returning from a raid near La Rochelle in 1943. Two of the crew were killed. The aircraft belonged to the United States Army Air Force 560th Squadron,388th Bomb Group, based at Knettishall at Suffolk (Station 136). Aircraft 42-30030 was also known as Old Ironsides. The remains were later beached by local fishermen on the Black Rocks. Please note that military aircraft remains are protected by the 1986 Protection of Military Remains Act and thus a licence form the Ministry of Defence must be obtained prior to any investigation work.
More information : Thursday 16th September 1943.

B17F (Flying Fortress) 42-30030 (Old Ironsides) of 388th Bomb Group, 560th Squadron USAF Station 136, Knettishall, Suffolk, was returning from a raid on La Pallice, near La Rochelle, when it became lost and ran out of fuel. It was forced to ditch 0.5 mile south of the Inner Farne, off Seahouses. The aircraft broke in two and sank in 4 minutes, drowning the 2 waist gunners.

Crew: Lt Nagorka, pilot, uninjured; Lt Parker, co-pilot, uninjured; S/Sgt Christensen, waist gunner, killed; S/Sgt Whitehead, waist gunner, killed; S/Sgt Harris, tail gun, injured. The rest of the crew uninjured.

Note: Remains of this aircraft were later dragged ashore by fishing boats onto the Black Rocks and can sometimes be seen at very low tide. (1)

Photograph of the nose art of "Old Ironsides". (1)

The aircraft ditched into the sea off the Farne Islands (date given as 17.09.1943) with the loss of 2 of the 8 crew. (2)

Commemorative display seen at Seahouses lifeboat station, 29th August, 2013. (4)

Built: 1942-3 (3)
Builder: Boeing (3)
Propulsion: 4 Wright Cyclone radial piston engines (3)
HP: each engine 1200hp (3)
Unit: 388th Bomb Group, 560th Squadron, USAF Knettishall (1)(2)
Crew: 8 (2)
Crew Lost: 2 (1)(2)

Date of Loss Qualifier: Actual date of loss

Additional sources cited in the Northumberland Aviation Diary:
"Kriegies, Caterpillars and Lucky Bastards", Glenn A Stephens

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Monument Types:
Monument Period Name : Second World War
Display Date : Crashed 1943
Monument End Date : 1943-12-31
Monument Start Date : 1943-01-01
Monument Type : B17 Flying Fortress
Evidence : Documentary Evidence

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