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Church Place

Hob Uid: 226235
Location :
Hampshire
New Forest
Denny Lodge
Grid Ref : SU3334006890
Summary : The remains of a medieval hunting lodge situated on the eastern extremity of ridge at Church Place in the New Forest. The location of the lodge is indicated by earthwork banks and an external ditch which enclose a sub-rectangular raised platform measuring 35 metres north-south and a maximum of 40 metres east to west. The banks are up to 4.5 metres in width and 0.6 metres in height. Fragmentary traces of an external ditch measuring a maximum of 3 metres in width and up to 0.3 metres in depth are visible, particularly on the northern and western sides of the platform. Scheduled.
More information : (Name SU 33330689) Church Place (TI) (1)

(SU 33340689) Church Place compares in every respect with
Churchyard, Sloden Wood; Studley Castle and Church Place,
Ashurst; all four are situated on hill crests and are similar
in their size (about 1/3 acre), in their square shape, in the
slight profile and precise alignment of their banks and ditches
and in their gap entrances. There can be no doubt that they
were all four made for the same purpose and during the same
period. The waste and consolidation of their earthworks
suggests ancient not Medieval origin. The purpose and period
have not been exactly determined. All are overgrown and Church
Place, Denny Lodge, is so wasted and concealed that its
existence has been overlooked. Only one other literary
reference is made to it, (a) where it is said to be a
'destroyed-in-the-Forest' church enclosure which is definitely
erroneous. The banks are considerably higher at the enclosure
corners which may be attributed to the method of excavation,
more material being thrown up from a ditch where it makes a
corner. (Plan (qv) shows bank with outer ditch and southern
entrance) (2)

The earthwork is situated in a wood, or forest inclosure, a few
yards from the crest of a northern escarpment and consists of a
bank, 5.0m wide and 0.5m high and outer ditch of equivalent
width and depth, forming an enclosure 32.0m north-south by
38.0m east-west. Mutilation of the bank and north-east corner
by trenches may represent a comparatively recent attempt at
'excavation'. The interior thus enclosed is flat and with
nothing of significance, save for the old beech and elm trees
growing in it. These together with a large elm, approx 7ft in
diameter, growing on the east bank indicate a 'date of
existence' for the earthwork of at least 200 years ago. No
other suggestion as to date or purpose can be made. A southern
entrance is approx 12.0m wide. (3)

From its close resemblance to earthworks at Studley Castle must
also mark a Royal Hunting Lodge, either one of those mentioned
in public records of the second half of the 14thc or an
equivalent. Published 1/2500 survey revised. (4)

No change. Published 1:2500 survey correct. Surveyed at 1:1000
for Branch Records only. (5)

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Source details : OS 6" 1910
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Source details : Sumner H. 1917. Ancient Earthworks of the New Forest, 64-7
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Source details : F2 ASP 15-APR-69
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Source details : F3 JGB 11-AUG-82
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Monument Types:
Monument Period Name : Medieval
Display Date : Befor 1366
Monument End Date : 1365
Monument Start Date : 1066
Monument Type : Hunting Lodge
Evidence : Earthwork
Monument Period Name : Medieval
Display Date : 1366
Monument End Date : 1366
Monument Start Date : 1366
Monument Type : Hunting Lodge
Evidence : Earthwork

Components and Objects:
Related Records from other datasets:
External Cross Reference Source : Scheduled Monument Legacy (County No.)
External Cross Reference Number : HA 251
External Cross Reference Notes :
External Cross Reference Source : Scheduled Monument Legacy (National No.)
External Cross Reference Number : 30269
External Cross Reference Notes :
External Cross Reference Source : National Monuments Record Number
External Cross Reference Number : SU 30 NW 17
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Related Warden Records :
Associated Monuments :
Relationship type : General association

Related Activities :
Associated Activities :
Activity type : FIELD OBSERVATION (VISUAL ASSESSMENT)
Start Date : 1954-11-15
End Date : 1954-11-15
Associated Activities :
Activity type : FIELD OBSERVATION (VISUAL ASSESSMENT)
Start Date : 1969-04-15
End Date : 1969-04-15
Associated Activities :
Activity type : FIELD OBSERVATION (VISUAL ASSESSMENT)
Start Date : 1982-08-11
End Date : 1982-08-11